Too much hype for Wiggins, Parker? Definitely raises question as two ‘next’ stars combine for 1 NCAA win

 

Question name the player who had this line in his final college basketball game:

6 of 14 from the field; 13 points; fouled out.

Did you guess Andrew Wiggins? Jabari Parker? Wrong.

The answer: Michael Jordan.

Yep, in Jordan’s final game at North Carolina, he was locked down by Dan Dakich (with some help from Bob Knight’s gameplan) in Indiana’s 72-68 upset over the then No. 1 Tar Heels.

So before you condemn Wiggins and Parker for coming up short in their first and likely final NCAA tournaments, just remember even the greatest player ever had a slice of heartbreak in March. (Of course, he did hit the shot to win the title as a freshman in 1982)

Yet having said that, CBS’ Jim Nantz was right to question the media’s obsession in hyping players before they play a minute of college ball. It’s hard to remember two freshmen who received more hype coming into a season. Parker even received the LeBron James treatment from Sports Illustrated, appearing on the cover as a high school player.

Wiggins and Parker both might be sensational NBA players. However, were they worthy of such preseason fanfare considering they combined to win one NCAA tournament game?

I know what Nantz said about the NCAAs being a team game. Yet with only five players on the court, in no sport does one megastar have a greater impact on his team. Carmelo Anthony led Syracuse to the title as a one-and-done freshman. Derrick Rose got Memphis to the finals. Anthony Davis helped get it done as the big player in Kentucky’s sensational freshman class.

Fact is, if Wiggins and Parker are truly transcendent stars of the next generation, you make it to the second week of the tournament. Or in Parker’s case, the second round.

Will the fall of Wiggins and Parker cause the media to use some perspective when the next big high school stars come down the pipeline? Will they done down the hype?

Not likely. There is an obsession in the media to label the “next” in sports. We want to know who we are going to be watching and talking about for the next 15-20 years.

So come next year, be prepared to be hear about the next best-thing freshman. The media can’t help it. It’s what we do.

 

 

 

Say what? Catalon says he didn’t know Polish remark was ‘derogatory’

Unfortunately, people are talking about Andrew Catalon after  calling his first NCAA tournament games last week. However, it is not the kind of attention he wanted.

From the AP Friday night:

A CBS announcer has apologized to a Polish-born Gonzaga player for using a derogatory term while describing the defense Oklahoma State was using against Przemek Karnowski.

In an effort to make a comeback in the second half, Oklahoma State started deliberately fouling Karnowski, who is a poor free throw shooter. Andrew Catalon, the play-by-play announcer for the game, called the strategy ”Hack-a-Polack.”

Catalon’s broadcasting partner, former NBA player Mike Gminski, who is of Polish descent, immediately responded, ”Easy now,” and chuckled at the comment.

Catalon apologized immediately. He then continued the apology tour in an email exchange with Richard Deitsch of SI.com.

Catalon: First and foremost, I’m deeply sorry. The honest truth is that I had no idea it’s considered a derogatory term. I’m ashamed and embarrassed to admit that, but in no way was I aware that I was making an insensitive or off-color remark. That’s not who I am.

SI.com: You apologized to Przemek Karnowski afterward. How did you go about doing that?

Catalon: It was very important to me that I apologized to him in-person. I immediately issued an apology on-air, but I wanted to meet with him face-to-face and apologize. I went into the Gonzaga locker room right after the game and he was very gracious in accepting my apology, as was Gonzaga head coach Mark Few, who offered his support.

SI.com: How concerned are you about this incident staying with you heading forward?

Catalon: I made an honest mistake, and I feel terrible about it. I hope that this does not define me and people will see me for the person and broadcaster that I have always been.

SI.com: What is your response to those viewers who believe you should be suspended or pulled from the tournament?

Catalon: I hope they understand that I made a mistake and I sincerely apologize for my poor choice of words and insensitive remark. I’m not a mean-spirited person. I’m deeply sorry.

Catalon didn’t know that it was “a derogatory term?” If that’s the case, then he better brush up on other terms that might be considered offensive.

Listen, I am all for seeing new people get an opportunity to work big games at the highest level. It was refreshing to hear a new voice in Catalon.

However, I’m sure he knows every announcer’s network future always rests on a precarious ledge. All it takes is one misplaced slip to send a promising newcomer into a free fall.

We likely won’t know until next year’s NCAA whether Catalon pays a price for this year’s mistake.

Why players want their cut: 2013 NCAA tournament generated $1.15 billion in ad revenue for CBS, Turner

When you see dollars in the billions, it is hard to argue that the players don’t deserve more than a few trinkets and meal money from the NCAA tournament.

This item caught my attention via Collegeathleticsclips.com. According to Kantar Media, a research firm, the 2013 NCAA tournament ad revenues generated $1.15 billion for CBS and Turner Sports.

Kantar writes:

Over the past decade (2004-2013), the NCAA men’s basketball tournament has triggered more than $6.88 billion of national TV ad spending from 269 different marketers. Ad revenue in 2013 was $1.15 billion, up 3.8 percent from the prior year.

Take a moment to think about those numbers: $1.15 billion in 2013 and $6.88 billion since 2004. Yet not one dime for the players.

In fact, the NCAAs pull in more TV ad revenue than any postseason in sports, including the NFL, which obviously has far fewer games.  It has more than doubled since 2004.

CBS and Turner need to generate that kind of money to offset its current 14-year, $10.8 billion deal with the NCAA. Then there also are the productions costs of airing all those games.

Clearly, though, it is a good deal on many levels for CBS and Turner. They own the attention of sports fans for three weeks.

The tournament also is good business for the companies and advertising firms. According to Kantar, General Motors, at $80 million, was the top NCAA advertiser last year.

Obviously, it works out well for the NCAA, coaches and administrators. They all have seen their salaries rise considerably thanks in part to the tournament.

As for the players? It’s still about the thrill of competition, right?

 

 

Grant Hill eying more broadcast opportunities: Will work as studio analyst during the tournament

Neil Best of Newsday talked to Grant Hill about his broadcast aspirations.

Hill is a partner in a private equity fund, but he would like to continue exploring broadcasting as a second career.

“You stay around the game and get the chance to use the knowledge and information you have accumulated,” he said. “But it is difficult, or at least more difficult than I envisioned.”

Given his big name, if he excels, the opportunities will be there for the former Dukie.

 

CBSSports.com’s Doyel: First Four is ‘a blatant money grab’

CBSSports.com’s Gregg Doyel does a huge takedown of last night’s so-called “First Four” play-in games in Dayton.

I only watched for a few minutes. Since I once was dubbed “the conscience of college football,” I immediately thought of how the “First Four” games make even more of a mockery of the notion of academics and athletics. The winning teams miss an entire week of school with the extra game and travel. Not that anyone cares.

Doyel was on hand in Dayton. He made it seem as if he had the arena to himself. He writes:

For Mount St. Mary’s, the NCAA Tournament started in a half-empty gym and ended in a completely empty locker room. While 60 other teams will start the NCAA Tournamenton Thursday or Friday in energy-filled venues featuring big-name schools and their frenzied fans, Mount St. Mary’s was one of eight teams sent to the play-in tournament, also known as the First Four, where everything is smaller: the arena, the crowd, the energy, the television network, the media throng.

Eight minutes after Mount St. Mary’s season ended Tuesday night, a 71-64 loss to Albany, the media throng was standing outside the Mountaineers’ locker room. And the media throng was one person. Me. Three tournament officials were standing outside the door with me. Why?

“Crowd control,” said one of them, a nice man named Chris. He was smiling, and then he was playfully spinning like a rebounder, blocking me out.

Later, Doyel pointed out the obvious.

But there’s only so much lipstick anyone can put on this pig, this blatant money grab by the power conferences for a few more slices of this $10.8 billion pie. The power and greed waters down the bracket, but that’s not my problem. Look, I’d love to see the field grow to 128. Or 256. The size of the field isn’t the problem. What happened Tuesday night to Mount St. Mary’s — and what will happen Wednesday night to Cal Poly or Texas Southern — is the problem.

But this is nearly a victimless crime. Who weeps for Mount St. Mary’s? Almost nobody. This is me, shouting down an empty well. Hello-o-o-o-o. Can you hear me-e-e-e-e?

Doyel concludes:

What are the players at Mount St. Mary’s going to tell their grandkids? About the time they played Albany in Dayton on March 18, 2014, the day they lost the chance to play in the actual NCAA Tournament?

Yeah, actually, that is the story they’ll tell. And they can mention the slogan:

The First Four — a play-in game, and an insult.

Yet here’s the bottom line. Turner Sports says the North Carolina State-Xaiver game averaged a 1.2 rating on truTV, the highest ever for a First Four.

If people tune in, the First Four will live on.

Q/A with Greg Anthony: Working first NCAA tournament as CBS lead analyst while on baby watch

It turns out Jim Nantz isn’t the only CBS announcer with baby issues this month. His new college basketball partner, Greg Anthony, has a little girl on the way.

Anthony, though, wasn’t able to time things as well as his the Nantz family; Courtney gave birth to a girl on Saturday. Anthony’s wife, Chere, is due with the couple’s fourth child on March 28, the day of the Sweet 16 games.

“It has added some anxiety,” Anthony said.  “I want everyone to be healthy. But by the same token, I want to be there (for the birth of the baby) and not have to miss any NCAA assignments. We’ll have to play it by ear.”

This is a big opportunity for Anthony. He will be working his first NCAA tournament and Final Four as CBS’ new No. 1 college basketball analyst. He is switching places with Clark Kellogg, who was moved to the studio during the tournament.

The former UNLV star knows the highs and lows of the NCAAs. He played on one of the most dominant teams of all time in winning the 1990 title. Yet he still suffers from the sting of the undefeated Runnin’ Rebel being upset by Duke in the 1991 Final Four.

Here is my Q/A with Anthony.

How do you feel about this opportunity?

It’s an awesome honor. I had the opportunity to be in the shoes of those players, both win and lose. In some ways, I’m fortunate to have had all of those experiences. I know what disappointment feels like. I know the misery of losing isn’t quite the same as the ecstasy of winning.

Do you still think about that loss to Duke?

Yes, even more when you get to this time of year. Those memories come to the forefront. There is more conversation about it. We were fortunate in that we already had won a national title.

Now I use those experiences to talk about the pressure these young men are feeling in the Final Four.

How do you explain that pressure?

It’s interesting. You often don’t appreciate the magnitude of the moment when you’re a college player. Oh, you know it’s big and that it is for the national championship. But you don’t realize for years to come that it’s going to be part of history. How your career is going to be defined.

Maybe it’s good to be a little naive in that way. You don’t allow the pressure to overcome you.

You only have worked two games with Nantz. How difficult will it be to develop chemistry on the fly during the tournament?

There is a challenge with that. Jim and I stay in contact all the time. We’re always talking about the game.

The ultimate for us is to win. The way to win is that you have to play with your teammates. It’s about everyone in our production crew. Spending time together. Going out for dinners. All those bonding moments definitely help when you face the moment of truth (during a telecast).

What will be your approach in analyzing the games?

There’s a lot of responsibility when you’re in that chair. The focus for me is about the games and the stories. I equate March Madness to the Olympics. The vast majority of people don’t watch college basketball until the tournament. The same as the OIympics.

When you tell the stories, it compels people to care about these players. You tell how they got there. They are someone’s brother or son. People can relate to that.

What about criticism? Is there a balance you have to strike in being critical and yet knowing that you’re not talking about seasoned NBA veterans?

That’s a great point. You can be compassionate even when you’re critical. I don’t go into any game expecting perfection. Mistakes are part of it. As long as you don’t make it personal, you’ll be fine.

As a player, nobody had to tell me I screwed up. I knew. I also say some mistakes are forced. The other team has players on scholarship too. I think it is important to explain the reason behind the mistake.

Let’s not forget these are young kids. When Chris Webber called the timeout, he was a young kid. Young kids make mistakes. That’s part of the tournament.

You playing on great and heavily favored UNLV teams. What’s better, having dominating teams or a wide-open tournament like we have this year?

This is better. When you have parity, it creates so much more excitement. The difference between the elite teams and everyone else has shrunk. There are No. 4 seeds that people like better than No. 1 seeds this year.

I always felt there were 8 to 10 teams who could win the title and a handful more could get to the Final Four. Now you can double that. Nobody knows what’s going to happen. That’s beautiful for the game.

 

 

 

 

Q/A with Seth Davis on Wooden biography: Coach you don’t know; impact of Sam Gilbert on legacy

There have been several books written by and about John Wooden, and countless stories and documentaries.

Yet you won’t truly know the complete story about the legendary coach until you read Seth Davis’ new book, Wooden: A Coach’s Life.

Davis spent four years researching and writing this comprehensive biography. It gets to the core of a highly complex man.

Despite all of his success, Wooden also was a mass of contradictions. By and large, his players didn’t view him as a beloved coach when they actually played for him. In fact, many despised him. Outwardly, he had a cool, calm demeanor, but in private, he had a quick temper and was prone to epic eruptions.

Then the coach who was viewed as a saint in the business had an infamous UCLA booster, Sam Gilbert, who openly broke NCAA rules by giving players special favors. Wooden never stepped in to stop it. Why and should we think those 10 NCAA titles were somewhat tainted?

It all makes for fascinating reading. Davis’ book is highly recommended. One of the best sports biographies I’ve read in a long time.

Here is my Q/A.

There have been several books written about John Wooden. Why did you decide there needed to be another one?

Davis: Right, but not like this, not what I would call ‑‑ what anyone would call a traditional biography, and certainly he’s somebody who would warrant a traditional biography.

I started thinking about it ‑‑ it really goes back to a column I wrote for SI.com.  It was 2003, and Ben Howland had just gotten hired at UCLA, and I had an idea to get Howland and Wooden together.  I was living in LA at the time kind of in the process of moving back east, and my view was get them together, have breakfast at the same place, and he was a pretty accessible guy, so it was not hard to set up at all.  That breakfast ended up going back to Wooden’s apartment, which I didn’t anticipate, hadn’t even asked for, and sat there for like four hours just talking to him and being around him, and Ben left, and it was just me and him, called my father‑in‑law and surprised him and put Wooden on the phone.

So it was a very cool memory and made for a nice column.  It just would have got me thinking about it and also reading about him, and I almost would have assumed at that point that somebody had written a biography, but nobody had.

You know, it was ‑‑ every book that’s come out, and they’re all wonderful books, but they’re all by Wooden, with Wooden, or for Wooden, so this is the first one in 40 years that’s been written about Wooden.

How do you dive into a book like this?

Davis: You just dive.   It’s like I read a quote once, writing a book is like driving at night, you can only see as far as your headlights, but if you keep driving you’ll get there. You make your list, and you start talking to people.

Who were the difficult guys?  Were you able to get Kareem and Walton?  How difficult was it to get those guys?

Davis:  Kareem’s assistant told me right away, he’s not going to do it, he’s rather do his own book.

Walton was interesting.  Walton absolutely did not want to talk to me, which I knew, but also was too nice to tell me know, so he kept putting me off thinking that I would give up.  He would say, thank you for your patience, and then I thought it would be scheduled and it wasn’t.

I finally stalked him at the Final Four in New Orleans, and I basically said to him, look, if you don’t talk to me here, I’m going to move into your tepee until you do, so let’s get this over with.  We met in the courtyard of his hotel at the Final Four.  It was the Tuesday after the championship game.  It was like a good two years that I chased him, but he wouldn’t tell me no.  Even if he told me no I wouldn’t have accepted it

Did you get Walt Hazzard?

Davis:  You know what, I did.  Actually as this thing was going on I could almost make a list of people who passed away after I interviewed them.  Walt Hazzard had a very bad stroke.  It was really sad, but I did sit in his living room in Los Angeles with his wife.  He was nice as could be, but he just couldn’t talk.  And it was so sad because you ever have one of those dreams where you’re trying to talk and you know what you want to say but you can’t talk?  He knew what he wanted to say, but his brain function to be able to speak was gone, so imagine how frustrating that is.

Who were the guys that really stood out for you?

Davis: Lucius Allen was one of the first people I interviewed, and it was well before I had even gotten a contract.  I don’t know what I was doing in LA, and I don’t know why I picked him to be honest, but I reached out to him and he said, come on over, and I sat on his couch for a couple hours, and this was well before I signed a deal.

Another one of the early guys, just because he lived in Connecticut was Gail Goodrich.  We had a couple of lunches in Connecticut, and he was terrific.  I mentioned in the acknowledgments this guy Kenny Heitz.  You know this as a journalist.  You never know what the interviews are that are going to be real useful.  You just never know, is a guy going to be ‑‑ and I went to Kenny’s loft, sat there for three hours, and he’s a brilliant lawyer and just a really great story teller.  I mean, I left there with so much gold because he’s ‑‑ people really, once Wooden passed, I think people sort of felt like they could talk a little more.

One of the takeaways is that Wooden was a very complex character and he wasn’t exactly what people have their perceptions of them was. I was struck that  the players really didn’t like him that much while they were playing for him.

Davis:  Yeah, it’s interesting.

Well, that’s why I want to write the book, because I knew he was more complicated than he was being portrayed.  In reading these books, he would throw out these little hints, and all these other books would have these like when he’s talking about Bill Sweeney, he just makes an offhanded reference, and ‘then after the game I almost went after him in the shower,’ and then after we played, blah blah blah.  I’m like, wait, what do you mean you almost went after him in the shower?  What the hell does that mean?  There’s a story here.  All those hints.  And when I visited Westwood, I saw the blueprint there.  Hey, this is a competitive guy, and it makes sense.  It was like a light went off.

The guy won 10 championships.  You don’t win 10 championships by reading poetry from your easy chair on your deck.  He got after it.

And then the whole Sam Gilbert thing was just something that fascinated me.  It was just something that everybody in basketball talked about but nobody had ever really explained, and it didn’t make sense.  Well, is he 100 percent committed to these principles of integrity or not?  It’s like being kind of pregnant.

I was very conflicted about the Sam Gilbert thing. He had to have known and he didn’t appear to do anything to stop Gilbert’s activities. What was your take?

Davis: Well, so you can appreciate this.  To me Sam Gilbert was the thing that everybody knows but nobody knows. I would be at these recruiting events and talking to these basketball coaches or other writers, hey, what’s going on, how you doing.  I would say, yeah, I’m writing this book about John Wooden.  If I tell you, every single time, 99 times out of 100, the very first thing out of their mouth was, are you going to write about Sam Gilbert.  Every single time, hushed tone.

Let me ask you something.  Let me guess.  Am I going to write about Sam Gilbert.  Everybody said that.  However, if I would sit down with some friends who were big sports fans, big basketball fans or even certain people in the business who covered, I would explain the whole Sam Gilbert, he was this guy, a booster, they never heard of him.  So it was this gap between something that everybody knew and something that nobody knew.

Yeah, it’s complicated.  Guess what, life is complicated.  Guess what, John Wooden was complicated. first and foremost, I learned how insecure he was.  That to me is ‑‑ I can’t say that it surprised me, but it makes sense.  It made sense.  When I linked his experience of the great depression, losing $909, which was a lot of money in 1932, you get married, you think you’re going to start your new life, you worked all those years of working in the summers and saving away, and you get married and you start your life, and it’s gone.

So that imbued that generation of this very deep belief and understanding that no matter what you’ve accumulated, it could all be gone in an instant, and I think that really informed a lot of what he did, and he was very competitive.

So he was not secure enough to say, him or me.  He was insecure about whatever was going through his mind, he rationalized it, and then after he rationalized it, he ‑‑ I don’t like to say that he was dishonest when he would describe it because I think in his own mind it was true, but what he would say to people, the NCAA looked into it when I was coaching and they found something, just factually inaccurate. So he would explain it in a way that does not jibe with what actually happened.

So these are the layers of a very wonderful and extraordinary man who was not perfect and was presented with a very complicated situation.  The world was bearing down on him from every direction.

If you think about it, if you think about it, and that universe and at that time, Sam Gilbert was a pretty minor ‑‑ I would say secondary pressure point for him.  He had other problems.  He had other problems than Sam Gilbert.  It’s only in retrospect, and where I think Wooden is most vulnerable to criticism on this front is what he did after he was coaching, which is to spend 35 years writing and speaking and lecturing and talking to interviewers like myself about integrity and principles, and here’s how you should live your life and how’s how I lived my life.

So then you have the Bob Knights of the world who have taken a lot of flak for not being as morally upright as John Wooden, and whatever you want to say about Bob Knight, and I’m not a big fan of Bob Knight, but there’s never been a whiff of impropriety with the NCAA with Bob Knight.

As a biographer, you’re less judgmental, you know the mission is to explain what happened. I knew from being on the beat that the Sam Gilbert thing was going to be really interesting to report and to write, to explain and then to watch the reaction of people like yourself.

What kind of reaction have you gotten to the Gilbert part?

Davis:  I think people just really find it interesting.  I don’t think he’s really being castigated.  It’s not like there’s headlines about it.  A lot of people knew about it.  I think a lot of people frankly, when they heard that I would be writing a Wooden book, kind of assumed that I would not address it, that I would skip over this.  I think more than anything people are impressed that I took it on.

I think people are maybe disappointed on a certain level, but if they read the whole book, then I think they know that this book is not a big takedown of John Wooden.  That’s not what I set out to do.  It’s certainly ‑‑ I just think the whole portrait of Wooden in the book I think people see him as real.  Like I think people appreciate the chance to learn more about how he ‑‑ what he was really like and what his life was really like as opposed to the sort of two‑dimensional picture that’s been presented.

We talk about his flaws, but what traits allowed him to succeed, other than having the great fortune of having two of the top three college basketball players of all time almost back to back?

Davis:  No question, although as I say to people when people sort of denigrate, well of course he had ‑‑ Mel Sanders said, yeah, well, that’s five.  Five to go.  You also have one with Dave Meyers and Marcus Johnson.

I think what comes across to me, and I hope to the reader, both how he coached and how he lived, is just his consistency, that he really just kind his hand to the till all those years, and whether he succeeded or failed or lived up to ‑‑ he pretty much stayed the same guy with the same belief system and really kind of stuck to it as best as he could.

And I think that really served him well as those chips were rolling in.  That whole thing about balance, about avoiding peaks and valleys, about controlling the controllables.  I think he pretty much stuck to that.  And if he hadn’t, he would not have been able to manage the ’60s and early ’70s and the tumult and social upheaval and all of that, and I also think even though his players didn’t always understand him and in many ways didn’t particularly like him, I think he genuinely loved them.

I think he had trouble expressing that and showing that to them, but I think in his heart, he really loved them, and I don’t think they would have played hard for him if they didn’t sense that on some level.

They wouldn’t have played for him if they didn’t sense that he really cared for them, and of course that came out over time after he was through playing, when he learned how to express it to them. That’s the other thing that I think you have to give Wooden credit for, that sign on his office wall that said, “It’s what you learn after you know it all that counts,” I think he really lived that.  I think that he really every day tried to keep an open mind because he never believed that he knew it all.

You finished the book writing about your three visits with him. How did those visits shape your image of him?

Davis:  Yes, that’s a great point.  That’s a great point.  I’ve always believed, and I’m sure you’ve had this same experience, that you can only judge people based on your personal interactions.  We’ve all had colleagues where people say this guy is a bad guy, but he’s nice to me.  For me to have those experiences with him and get a sense of what he was like personally, definitely, and they were very positive experiences.  I mean, I really treasured those memories.  Whatever journey I was taking with him, I was going to always end up back in that den with him, and I think that definitely informed the arc of the book.

 

Q/A with Stephen Bardo: Why Lou Henson was upset over new book on ’89 Flyin’ Illini; his move to BTN

As a proud University of Illinois alum, I always will have fond memories of the ’89 Flying Illini basketball team. In fact, with the way the current season is going, I wish it was 1989 again.

They were an unforgettable bunch even if they failed to win the NCAA title. Their feet barely hit the floor all season.

Stephen Bardo, a guard for that team, parlayed that experience into a career in broadcasting. Yet everywhere he goes, people still ask him about what happened 25 years ago.

Bardo decided to write a book, The Flyin’ Illini: The Untold Story of One of College Basketball’s Elite Teams.

Bardo’s honesty in the book, especially over the coaching and relationship with Lou Henson, angered some people in Illini Nation. Of Henson, he wrote:

“Lou and I didn’t like each other at all. It was a battle of wills. Lou’s way was old school.”

“I took me a few years to work out all the negative thoughts I collected about Coach Henson.”

“Lou was not the kind of coach to instill confidence in his players.”

Why was Bardo so frank? Here’s my Q/A:

Why did you decide to write the book?

There was no historical account of that team. I thought it was my duty to pull something together. We were a unique team, the way we ran and played above the rim. Whenever I run into coaches like Bill Self and Coach K, Jim Calhoun, they all want to talk to me about the Flyin’ Illini. It’s great to get that feedback 25 years later.

Why did you decide to go public with your criticisms of Henson?

I actually was more critical (in the rough draft). My father suggested I tone it down a bit.

I was sharing how my feelings when I was 18 to 22. We were a great team, but that doesn’t mean everything was hunky-dory. I had my faults. Everyone did. I wanted to share what I went through.

There recently was a 25th reunion of that team in Champaign. How was your interaction with Henson?

He wasn’t as happy to see me as before. He’s a grown man. We can agree to disagree. Part of the responsibility of writing a book is to be honest. I couldn’t have written this book without being honest.

You also were candid about your rocky relationship with Ken Norman.

I tried to paint a picture of the aura of Ken Norman. He was tough guy, a troubled individual. I had a lot of dealings with him that weren’t positive.

How did you feel about some of the critical reaction to the book?

It was a little disturbing. I would ask people, ‘Did you read the book? You need to read the book.’ It’s more than (what was written in the initial columns). It’s about the games and the great team we had. When people read the book, I get great feedback.

After many years doing basketball for ESPN, how does it feel to be in your first year calling games for BTN?

It was disappointing not being asked back to ESPN. It was a hit to the ego. However, being at BTN is 10 times better than I could have imagined.

I always loved the conference. It is the best in the country. At ESPN, I was just a small cog in a big machine. At BTN, it is much different. It’s great to be valued and wanted.

The current Illini are struggling this year. Do you have any eligibility left?

If I could get two knee replacements, I’d think about it.

 

 

 

My full Q/A with Jay Bilas on pay-for-play: NCAA ‘unwilling to do the right thing’; Advocates free market system

My Chicago Tribune column on Jay Bilas and his stance on the pay-for-play issue in college sports generated quite a reaction yesterday. Many sides to the debate. Bilas himself even engaged with a few of my followers on Twitter.

Since the ESPN college basketball analyst had much more to say on the subject, it seems appropriate to share the entire interview. Definitely worth the read.

I can’t say I agree with all of Bilas’ points. However, being married to one, I know there was smarter things to do than get in argument with a lawyer. Yes, Bilas also practices law.

Regardless of where you stand on the issue, Bilas makes some compelling arguments. It is interesting to note that he doesn’t advocate paying all student-athletes. Rather, he wants a free market system to let the schools decide for themselves what they want to do.

Here is my Q/A with Bilas:

You’ve kind of become almost the go‑to guy, the face of the pay-for-play issue. How do you feel about that?

Bilas:  I’m a little torn about it because I’m not stupid. I realize I’d be better off if I just kept my mouth shut and I took the money that’s coming to me and I was a cheerleader for the sport, and I am a cheerleader for college basketball. College basketball is the best sport in my opinion.  But it doesn’t mean that everything is right with it, and when you love something, you say when it’s wrong.  I say what I think.  That’s what I’m paid to do.

Why are you torn then?

Bilas:  Well, because I would rather come to these games and just worry about the games.  I don’t like the fact that the NCAA is screwed up.  I don’t like that.  I think they can and should do better.  I don’t want them to be forced to do something by the courts or by the O’Bannon case or all that stuff.  I don’t want that to happen.  I want them to do it because it’s the right thing.  But the truth is they’re unwilling to do the right thing.

Now, reasonable minds can differ.  You can say, hey, you know what, I don’t think it’s the right thing, so my school, I don’t want to pay at my school or I don’t want to do this at my school.  That’s fine.  Don’t tell me I can’t do it.  Because somebody doesn’t want to do it, don’t tell everybody they can’t do it.  I think that’s wrong.

The conventional wisdom is that paying athletes can’t be done. The money isn’t there. Why do you think otherwise?

Bilas: It’s a lame excuse. Sometimes I like to take things to the absurd to make a point, but it’s really funny how nobody ever says, like when they started this playoff, this College Football Playoff, nobody said, it’s just too complicated.  How are we going to figure it out?  How are we going to figure out what venue to use and how are we going to play all the vendors?  Do we pay all the vendors the same thing?  Do we pay the parking attendants the same thing that we pay the announcers?  How do we do it?  Do we pay all the teams?  How do we pay the coaches?  Do we pay the assistants the same way that ‑‑ it’s funny how they can make all these decisions according to the free market, but the athletes, boy, you can’t do that.

I don’t believe, nor does any reasonable economist believe, that this entire enterprise teeters upon the athletes staying amateur.  It doesn’t.  They say, well, if we pay the athletes we’ll have to cut other sports.  Says who?  Nobody says when they say, boy, you give the players more than a scholarship, you have to cut other sports.  Nobody has to say if you pay Rick Pitino or Coach K and Bill Self $5 to $10 million, you’re not going to have other sports.  Nobody says that.  And the money keeps going up.  We’re making more money, not less, and there’s not one economic theory that says that if you pay your employees, you’re automatically, it’s a zero sum game, you’re going to have less profit.

But isn’t it true most of these athletic programs are losing money?

Bilas: No, it’s not true. It’s a lie.  What do they say their biggest expense is?

Scholarships.

 Bilas: Who do they pay it to?

The athletes.

Bilas: No, they pay it to themselves.  So the athletic department pays the school, and they say, look, we don’t have any money.  Look, we had to pay for scholarships.  They pay the school.  That’s like my wife saying, well, look, geez, we had a bunch of expenditures, we have no money because I gave all my money to you.  It’s still in the house.  It’s still within the University.  It’s all the same.  It’s all out of the same pot.

So now, do they have a lot of salaries and all that?  Yeah, but they’re paying themselves.  It’s funny how they’ve got the money to pay themselves first, and they go, there’s nothing left over.  Why are the athletes at the end?

So you would pay all the athletes? 

Bilas: I would let the schools do what they want.

Wouldn’t that create an uneven playing field?

Bilas: How?  It’s uneven now. They don’t have to give scholarships if they don’t want to.  There’s nothing that requires them to give scholarships.  They don’t pay all their coaches the same thing.  They don’t pay the lacrosse coach the same thing they pay the football coach.  How did they make that determination?  Why isn’t that too complicated?  They come out with these ridiculous questions, are we going to pay the last guy on the wrestling team the same thing we pay the quarterback?  Well, do you pay the wrestling coach the same thing you pay Nick Saban?  The answer is no.  So do what you want.  You want to pay everybody the same, go ahead.

So it’s an open market then?

Bilas:  Yeah.

What about a player like Johnny Manziel, who was worth millions to Texas A&M. How much would you pay him

Bilas:    What I would start with is the free market, which seems to work really well for the rest of us.  It’s funny how the rest of us can operate pretty cleanly within the free market.  What would happen is, in my judgment, if you could do whatever you wanted, you’d insist on a contract.  You’d say to a kid, we’ll give you a three‑year deal for X amount, pay for your expenses for school and everything, but we’re going to insist on a non-compete clause.  You can’t go any other school, you can’t go pro, we’ll enforce the non-compete, and we’re going to have a behavior clause and a clause for ‑‑ you can terminate for cause if you get in trouble or if you don’t do your homework, whatever the heck you want.  And that way everybody protects their own interests.

It’s really not that hard.  Everybody else seems to do it and do it in pretty decent fashion.

But now if there are legitimate concerns where we say, okay, we need to think about reasonable regulation of this for competitive balance reasons, we can do that.  But you don’t start at zero and say, all right, well, we’re not going to do anything because we don’t know how it would look or how

Do you think a system like that would cause a restructuring of conferences?

Bilas:  Maybe. They’re restructuring anyway.  They restructure for their own benefit.  What difference would it make if they did it for another reason?

How do you feel about what is happening at Northwestern where the players are looking to form a union?

Bilas:  I think it’s inevitable. Some people think that this kind of thing was never going to happen because the players are transient, and by the time they realize that they’re getting the short end of the stick, they’re going to be out of school anyway so what’s the point and that kind of thing.

But I always felt like this was going to happen because the amount of money that’s in the game now, I think this is pro sports, and the only thing that’s not pro about it is the fact that they don’t pay their employees.  The tension between the amount of money that’s generated and the amount of money that’s paid to the coaches and the administrators and all that and the amount that’s provided to the players, which is basically just their expenses, that tension is only going to grow.  That’s not going to lessen.

I think it’s the beginning of it rather than some sort of ending point, but to me the best news about it isn’t that the players are doing something.  It’s that it is starting a conversation where the logic, or lack thereof, of the NCAA is going to be tested and scrutinized, because to me, like they’re always telling us, no, this is a great deal for the players and they get more than they deserve, and they’re not worth it.  Well, if that’s true, then the deal should be able to stand on its own, and you should be able to justify your own policies, and I think now they have to do it.

How do players react to you now?  Do they say, ‘Hey, thanks for standing up for us?’

Bilas:  That happens a lot, yeah, they do.  But I’m not doing this for them.  I say it because I think it’s the right thing.

What about the other side, administrators, coaching staffs?

Bilas:  You know what, I have never had anybody that has said, hey, you shouldn’t be saying this.  You get some administrations saying I agree but not to this point, or I think we can do it this way.  So you have a number of people that agree with you.  You have some that don’t, but I’ve never been around any administrator that has been anything but respectful of my opinion, and I hope I come across as being respectful of theirs.

They may dislike the ideas I put out, but nobody has ever made it about me, and I may disagree with the ideas they put out, but the NCAA thing, I don’t like the policies, some of the policies.  The people are great.  I mean, they’re great.  I have never had a problem with a person at the NCAA.  They are phenomenal.  I just don’t agree with the policies.

Do you think you’re changing any minds?

Bilas:  I don’t know.  Look, I’m not out to change minds as long as people think about it and they approach it in a reasonable fashion, whatever they ‑‑ reasonable minds can differ on stuff, and I respect the opposing view, I just don’t agree with it.

 

 

 

 

 

Jay Bilas on pay-for-play in college sports: Why is there money for everyone else but athletes?

My latest Chicago Tribune column has Jay Bilas weighing on the situation at Northwestern, where athletes are looking to form a union. The ESPN analyst has become the defacto go-to-guy on the pay-for-play issue.

You also can access the column via my Twitter feed at Sherman_Report.

From the column.

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When a group of Northwestern players announced plans to form a union, Jay Bilas’ phone started to ring. That was natural as he has become a key voice, if not the prime voice, on the pay-for-play issue in college sports.

The ESPN college basketball analyst has been extremely outspoken in his contention that the NCAA system is grossly unfair to athletes. Like it or not, the 6-foot-8 former Duke forward’s pointed views have made him an even bigger man in this heated debate.

“I’m a little bit torn about it,” Bilas said. “I’m not stupid. I realize I’d be better off if I kept my mouth shut. Listen, I’m a cheerleader for college basketball. This is a great sport, but it doesn’t mean everything is right with it.”

Bilas long has railed about the big money going to coaches and administrators, not to the mention the millions to construct lavish athletic facilities. Yet the athletes don’t receive a dime beyond their scholarships, even if the university sells jerseys with some of their names on them.

Bilas can feel the momentum for change building. He insists he is not surprised by what is happening at Northwestern.

“This is pro sports,” Bilas said. “There’s big money involved. The tension between the money that is generated and the amount provided to the athletes, which is basically expenses, is only going to grow. To me, the best thing about what the Northwestern players are doing is starting the conversation where the theories and logic of the NCAA are going to be scrutinized.”

Bilas contends it’s easy to deflate the NCAA’s logic. He knocks down the common arguments that the money isn’t there to pay athletes and that non-revenue sports would have to be cut if such a compensation system was put into place.

“It’s funny how they have the money to pay themselves (the administrators and coaches) first and then say there’s nothing left over for the athletes,” Bilas said. “Why are the athletes on the other end? When people say there’s no way to (pay athletes), that’s just an excuse. They can do everything else, but they can’t figure out this one? We could do this really easily if we wanted to.”

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Coming soon: My complete Q/A with Bilas on the issue.